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Dear Leticia, Thank you so much for responding. Yours is a good idea to make a list of any possible leads from the phone books, while I'm there. If I find alot of Onates there, I'll obtain a copy of the book itself! Unfortunately, I have no living older relatives (that I know of) from which to get any guidance. So I really do appreicate your help. Being new to genealogy, I fully expected to get several responses from the experienced members of our group. For the past year I've read every email posted and I recall emails from others that have taken a similar trip and I hoped they could share tips for success. Again, my call for help goes out, and my thanks for your idea and well wishes. Alice BB

Para aquellos que requieran en su investigación encontrar personas en el estado de Sonora, el Colegio de Sonora puso en línea 1,492 testamentos del periodo de 1786 a 1910.

La dirección es http://www.colson.edu.mx/testamentos/testamentos.html

In my experience, regarding contacting relatives, there are some issues to consider.

Personaly is been sweet-sour cause it is a joy to see the faces of those I long to see, ´cause at last a name from the past has a face in the present, it is an intimate joy that maybe those persons take for "a curiosity not so clear".

Hi,
my name is Veronica Lopez. My parents and most of my grandparents come from
JALPA, ZACATECAS. I understand from reading previous posts that the records
for that town are very skimpy.

My maternal grandfather's name was Juvenal VIRAMONTES. He had at least 3

I think we should be reminded that it is necessary to "Snip" a piece of
the message you are replying to so the rest of us can know what a
particular answer is referring to. So if you get an email and you want

Im not supposed to be doing this but since I have made so many wonderful people here on ranchos, I couldnt keep this to myself. The new website isn't officially launched but is now functioning as Beta 2 or 3 is now starting. It's quite LONG! The new website can only be accessed my church members for now but to see if we can play around with it before it goes public.

My name is Joseph de Leon. My ancestral roots come from both HUEJUCAR & ,COLOTLAN, JALISCO and JEREZ, ZACATECAS. Some of the surnames of my ancestors are: DE LEON, CARLOS, BANUELOS, FLORES, COVARRUBIAS, VILLANEDA, and many others.

I had submit a doc in the files section of the group, in the "L" click in "Leon Leticia", is an update for Lino Oñate my gggrandpa on my fathers maternal side.

I submitted new findings for my Oñate Line, a small step.

I have printed out the batch numbers given on the website for Aguascalientes, but the year I need is not on the list. Under birth, I need 1882. Can anyone tell me where I can find birth records for that year? I am looking for Cruz Bustamante B.

Lupe Kerr,

Most of the LDS (Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints) Family History Library films are NOT indexed into Batch Numbers; but information can be researched by reading the respective microfilms from the Library

I just addes a beautiful image of a lady and child, she is great grandma to two of my nieces related to the surnames of Barba and Martín Del Campo from Los Altos De Jalisco

I notice that 1878 could not be the father of Cruz Bustamante. It's too early I guess. Sorry, but I still need help

This may be in the user guide, but I can't access that right now because I
can't open Word. What setting do I put for "Char set"? What email address do
I send it to? Most of my entries don't have the relevant microfilm source

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Hola a todos,
Quisiera saber si alguno de ustedes tiene, o si sabe como encontrar, los numeros de rollos relacionados con los siguientes pueblos de Los Altos: VALLE DE GUADALUPE, CANADAS DE OBREGON, CAPILLA DE GUADALUPE, PEGUEROS, SAN IGNACIO CERRO GORDO y MIRANDILLA.

I found a website that lists most batch numbers for Mexico by state then by municipio.

Here's the website:

http://mexicoigibatchnumbers.wetpaint.com/

-Hope this helps someone!

-Daniel Me

Hello Candis,

Last year I went on vacation to Puerto Vallarta and had an opportunity to
visit San Sebastian del Oeste. As you mentioned, San Sebastian is a former
mining town and about an hour's drive from Puerto Vallarta. Until two

Hello to all! Saludos a todos! Hope every one had a great Christmas and also wishing you the best for the new year!

I'm stuck on my research for my Enriquez family in Jalostotitlan. The latest couple I have is Jose Maria Enriquez and Maria Nicolasa Gonzalez de Villasenor. They are my 6GGrandparents. They lived around the mid 1700's. I can't figure out anything before that. Their son, Jose Vicente Yrineo Enriquez Gonzalez (who was a twin by the way) was born around 1785 and married Maria Francisca Romo de Vivar. Vicente's daughter, Maria Gerarda Enriquez, eventually made her way to Amoxochitl (Juchipila area) and married my GGGrandfather Jose Maria Enriquez... yes, there were both Enriquez :-) -- so makes for an interesting line to have 2 last names join in different towns with who knows what backgroud.

Can anyone help me with my family tree? My father's (Elias de Leon) ancestors are from Huejucar, Jalisco. Beyond my GGF Nicolas de Leon, born Abt 1845, I know nothing.
His father was Francisco de Leon son of Nicolas de Leon and Refugio Covarrubias. He was a music composer who was born after 1866 and died probably around 1910-1915 at the hands of a beating from Pancho Villa's thugs. Only recently have I discovered that Francisco had a brother named Espiridion de Leon who was baptised in Huejucar on 12/18/1874.

http://www.purovillanueva.com/

I just wanted to tell the new members who are new to researching that after 10 years of researching I just did my first record of "hijos naturales." I'd stayed away from them because I felt it was sort of prying.. silly me! I"m working on 0439889 Jerez Zacatecas, hijos naturales and have found lots and lots of children listed as natural when their parents were actually married!

Helo Everyone!

I am trying to find out where two places are.
Mineral de Angeles is one, is this now Noria de Angeles or are they two different places?
The other is Mineral de Pinos. I know it must be in Pinos, Zacatecas, I just want to know where and if it has another name now.

When I was very young (1940-50's) I spent time with my family in Jalisco on Rancho Calderón, which is reached by following the road between Zapotlanejo and Tepatitlán and leaving it about halfway, to reach the rancho which was pretty far from the highway. Rancho Calderón was in the Valle de Calderón and the adobe structures were quite ancient. I think I remember hearing that the main hacienda was built in the 1600's or 1700's. It was owned by the Romo (de Vivar) family but purchased in the early 20th century by Salvador Padilla. Salvador Padilla had married María Guadalupe "Lupe" Romo and purchased the failing rancho to "keep it in the family." Salvador and Lupe were probably born shortly after the turn of the century, since Lupe is still alive and in her late 90's. She was the daughter of Luis Romo (de Vivar), one of the sons of my GGGF José de los Santos Romo (de Vivar). I have no idea whether it was he or one of his sons who owned the rancho. In a sad turn of affairs, the rancho was seized by the government in the late 1900's and is now at the bottom of a reservoir. I see a big reservoir on the Google map, which is north of the highway and is long enough to fill the middle third of the distance between Zapotlanejo and Tepatitlán--but I'm not even sure if the rancho was north or south of the highway.

(Espanol sigue abajo)

I know this is an often repeated announcement around here, but since we have so many new members and the activity on the list has heated up, I figured I should repeat it.

Please, please trim your messages. When you reply to a posting via email, if you have your email set to include the message to which you are replying as part of the message, delete all but that part of the message which is necessary to provide context. Often nothing is necessary other than an appropriate subject for the reply message. When replies get posted online, they get posted along with the messages to which they are responding, so there is no need to repeat text. Such repetition makes the message very, very illegible.