Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows who Caterina, daughter of don Marcos Pedroza and María López de Nava, married? Her daughter was my ancestor's first wife. Juana Izzazi y Martín del Campo or Cuevas. I think her paternal grandparents were Nicolás Martín del Campo and Sebastiana Izzazi y Cuevas, hence the Izzazi y Martín del Campo. Juana was also known as Juana Izzazi y Cuevas. So I KNOW for a fact she descended from the same alteño Izazzi.
-Daniel Méndez del Camino
Translation request - parroquia de Salina, San Luis Potosí
I need help translating a short historical discription of Salinas, San
Luis Potosí. Following is the original, and my attempted translation,
which I think is mostly correct. Any help would be appreciated.
Source:
http://www.adabi-ac.org/publicaciones/descargas/inventarios/92_WEB_Parr…
La parroquia de Salinas de Peñón Blanco cercano a la ciudad de San
Luis Potosí bajo el patrocinio de Nuestro Padre Jesús, cuya fiesta
se celebra el primer viernes del mes de marzo. El municipio al que
pertenece limita con Ramón, Santo Domingo, Charcas, Venado y
Moctezuma. Su suelo es árido y el clima seco estepario. Tienen
ganadería, cultivos de temporal y se explota la sal.
La acción evangelizadora en Salinas fue desarrollada, desde la
Conquista, por los frailes franciscanos.
Antes de constituirse parroquia era una modesta capilla (1600) que
fue atendida por franciscanos, agustinos mercedarios y finalmente
por el clero diocesano. En 1799 la capilla estuvo bajo la
jurisdicción de la parroquia de Ojocaliente, Zacatecas, y ese mismo
año fue erigida parroquia cuya jurisdicción comprendió Real de
Ramos, el Carro, Noria de Ángeles y Espíritu Santo.
La parroquia de Salinas fue primero parte de la curia diocesana de
Guadalajara hasta 1855, luego perteneció a la de San Luis Potosí
(1863), después a la de Zacatecas (1920), y desde 1920 volvió a
formar parte del ahora arzobispado de San Luis Potosí.
Algunos templos que estaban bajo el cuidado pastoral de la parroquia
de Salinas, se transformaron en poco tiempo en parroquias, así
sucedió con Noria de los Ángeles, Espíritu Santo, Villa de Ramos y
Salitral de Carrera y Hernández.
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The parish of Salinas de Peñón Blanco near to the city of San Luis
Potosí under the patronage of Nuestro Padre Jesús, whose festivity
is celebrated the first Friday of the month of March. The municipio
to which it belongs borders on Ramón, Santo Domingo, Charcas, Venado
and Moctezuma ...
The evangelistic acts in Salinas were organized, after the Conquest,
by the Franciscans.
Before it was constituted a parish it was a modest chapel (1600)
that was attended by Franciscans, Augustinian missionaries, and
finally by the Diocesian clergy. In 1799 the chapel was under the
jurisdiction of the parish of Ojocaliente, Zacatecas, and about that
same year was made a parish whose jurisdiction included Real de
Ramos, el Carro, Noria de Ángeles, and Espíritu Santo.
The parish of Salinas was first part of the Diocesian curatage(?) of
Guadalajara until 1855; then it belonged to that of San Luis Potosí
(1863), afterward to that of Zacatecas (1920), and from 1920 it
returned to join what is now the archbishopric of San Luis Potosí.
Some temples that were under the pastoral care of the parish of
Salinas, were transformed in a short time into parishes, in the same
manner as did Noria de los Ángeles, Espíritu Santo, Villa de Ramos,
and Salitral de Carrera y Hernández.
--
Best regards,
Stuart mailto:stuartarms@gmail.com
Translation request - parroquia de Salina, San Luis Potosí
Hola,
Tu traduccción me parece muy bien, igual y esta página te sirva y te ahorre
traducir.
http://www.e-local.gob.mx/work/templates/enciclo/sanluispotosi/municipi…
Saludos
Patty Haro
2009/3/3 Stuart Armstrong
> I need help translating a short historical discription of Salinas, San
> Luis Potosí. Following is the original, and my attempted translation,
> which I think is mostly correct. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Source:
>
> http://www.adabi-ac.org/publicaciones/descargas/inventarios/92_WEB_Parr…
>
> La parroquia de Salinas de Peñón Blanco cercano a la ciudad de San
> Luis Potosí bajo el patrocinio de Nuestro Padre Jesús, cuya fiesta
> se celebra el primer viernes del mes de marzo. El municipio al que
> pertenece limita con Ramón, Santo Domingo, Charcas, Venado y
> Moctezuma. Su suelo es árido y el clima seco estepario. Tienen
> ganadería, cultivos de temporal y se explota la sal.
>
> La acción evangelizadora en Salinas fue desarrollada, desde la
> Conquista, por los frailes franciscanos.
>
> Antes de constituirse parroquia era una modesta capilla (1600) que
> fue atendida por franciscanos, agustinos mercedarios y finalmente
> por el clero diocesano. En 1799 la capilla estuvo bajo la
> jurisdicción de la parroquia de Ojocaliente, Zacatecas, y ese mismo
> año fue erigida parroquia cuya jurisdicción comprendió Real de
> Ramos, el Carro, Noria de Ángeles y Espíritu Santo.
>
> La parroquia de Salinas fue primero parte de la curia diocesana de
> Guadalajara hasta 1855, luego perteneció a la de San Luis Potosí
> (1863), después a la de Zacatecas (1920), y desde 1920 volvió a
> formar parte del ahora arzobispado de San Luis Potosí.
>
> Algunos templos que estaban bajo el cuidado pastoral de la parroquia
> de Salinas, se transformaron en poco tiempo en parroquias, así
> sucedió con Noria de los Ángeles, Espíritu Santo, Villa de Ramos y
> Salitral de Carrera y Hernández.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The parish of Salinas de Peñón Blanco near to the city of San Luis
> Potosí under the patronage of Nuestro Padre Jesús, whose festivity
> is celebrated the first Friday of the month of March. The municipio
> to which it belongs borders on Ramón, Santo Domingo, Charcas, Venado
> and Moctezuma ...
>
> The evangelistic acts in Salinas were organized, after the Conquest,
> by the Franciscans.
>
> Before it was constituted a parish it was a modest chapel (1600)
> that was attended by Franciscans, Augustinian missionaries, and
> finally by the Diocesian clergy. In 1799 the chapel was under the
> jurisdiction of the parish of Ojocaliente, Zacatecas, and about that
> same year was made a parish whose jurisdiction included Real de
> Ramos, el Carro, Noria de Ángeles, and Espíritu Santo.
>
> The parish of Salinas was first part of the Diocesian curatage(?) of
> Guadalajara until 1855; then it belonged to that of San Luis Potosí
> (1863), afterward to that of Zacatecas (1920), and from 1920 it
> returned to join what is now the archbishopric of San Luis Potosí.
>
> Some temples that were under the pastoral care of the parish of
> Salinas, were transformed in a short time into parishes, in the same
> manner as did Noria de los Ángeles, Espíritu Santo, Villa de Ramos,
> and Salitral de Carrera y Hernández.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Stuart mailto:stuartarms@gmail.com
>
Caterina de la Pedroza
Catalina Pedroza on 31/may /1683 married bernabe martin del campo son of francisco martin del campo and Maria Isassi
francisco was nicolas 's brother
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Caterina de la Pedroza
Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows who Caterina, daughter of don Marcos Pedroza and María López de Nava, married? Her daughter was my ancestor's first wife. Juana Izzazi y Martín del Campo or Cuevas. I think her paternal grandparents were Nicolás Martín del Campo and Sebastiana Izzazi y Cuevas, hence the Izzazi y Martín del Campo. Juana was also known as Juana Izzazi y Cuevas. So I KNOW for a fact she descended from the same alteño Izazzi.
-Daniel Méndez del Camino
Caterina de la Pedroza
Thanks, Richard! I cant believe it. I already had this couple in my vast database! What drove me off was I had Catarina de la Pedroza in my database "hija de Marcos Pedroza y María de Nava" and in another part of my database I had her listed as Catalina López de Nava, hija de Marcos Pedroza and María Lopes. I need to check where and when she is listed as López de Nava. I know at least one document she uses her mother's name. I need to cite my sources on my PAF more often, but when I was younger I was ignorant at the fact, the importance of citing for future refernce. I have María and Juana both using there grandmother's surname Izazzi y Cuevas. Juana Izzazi y Cuevas (or Izzazi y Martín del Campo) married my ancestor Nicolás Díaz y Tiscareño bef 1731 not sure when, perhaps you do, Richard? They at least had one daughter Fabiana D. y. Tsño. Juana died in Aug 1730, a year later Nicolás married my 7x grt grandmother, Dionicia de la Pedroza, this marriage on 5 apr 1731 in Lagos de Moreno required a dispensa which I have becuase Dionicia was 2nd cousin to Juana Izzazi y Cuevas. They had Nicolás Miguel Díaz Tiscareño baptized 1734 in Ojuelos, who had J. Joaquín
Díaz Tiscareño abt 1765 who had Ma. Guadalupe Díaz Tiscareño abt 1785 en "La Chona" who had José Antonio Rubio de Borbón 1814 in Tepa, who had María Dariía Atilana Rubio de Borbón in 1856 who had Lucía de Serrano 1887 who had my grandfather Martín Méndez 1917 who had my father J. Gabriel Méndez 1956 who had me. -Daniel Camino
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Caterina de la Pedroza
For Marcos pedroza's wife I have a maria Nava daughter of Thomas Villalobos and catarina Macias and nothing else. I this correct? Do you have more info on her?
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Sent: Tue 3/3/2009 10:33 PM
To: Patty Hoyos
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Caterina de la Pedroza
Thanks, Richard! I cant believe it. I already had this couple in my vast database! What drove me off was I had Catarina de la Pedroza in my database "hija de Marcos Pedroza y María de Nava" and in another part of my database I had her listed as Catalina López de Nava, hija de Marcos Pedroza and María Lopes. I need to check where and when she is listed as López de Nava. I know at least one document she uses her mother's name. I need to cite my sources on my PAF more often, but when I was younger I was ignorant at the fact, the importance of citing for future refernce. I have María and Juana both using there grandmother's surname Izazzi y Cuevas. Juana Izzazi y Cuevas (or Izzazi y Martín del Campo) married my ancestor Nicolás Díaz y Tiscareño bef 1731 not sure when, perhaps you do, Richard? They at least had one daughter Fabiana D. y. Tsño. Juana died in Aug 1730, a year later Nicolás married my 7x grt grandmother, Dionicia de la Pedroza, this marriage on 5 apr 1731 in Lagos de Moreno required a dispensa which I have becuase Dionicia was 2nd cousin to Juana Izzazi y Cuevas. They had Nicolás Miguel Díaz Tiscareño baptized 1734 in Ojuelos, who had J. Joaquín
Díaz Tiscareño abt 1765 who had Ma. Guadalupe Díaz Tiscareño abt 1785 en "La Chona" who had José Antonio Rubio de Borbón 1814 in Tepa, who had María Dariía Atilana Rubio de Borbón in 1856 who had Lucía de Serrano 1887 who had my grandfather Martín Méndez 1917 who had my father J. Gabriel Méndez 1956 who had me. -Daniel Camino
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Caterina de la Pedroza
The dispensa I have for Nicolás and Dionicia says that Caterina was hija de Marcos de la Pedroza y María López de Nava. In return, María is daughter of Mateo de Macías y Valadés and Catalina López de Nava, hence why I think Catarina or Catalina used Nava intercchangeably. Im not sure what her name is Ive seen Catalina and Catarina, very common to get these named wrong throughout the period! I can provide citation for the dispensa if needed. -Daniel Camino
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Calvillo family
Hi Daniel,
I was looking for my sister inlaws ancestors when I found that she descends from people that you posted. She descends from Juan Evangelista Calvillo y Avila and Maria Simona Corro Silva.
Juan E. is the son of Jose Sotero Calvillo Jimenez and Ma.Gertrudis Avila Tiscareno
Ma. simona is the daughter of Jose Antonio Corra y Escandon and Josefa Mariana de Silba y Norona
Sotereo is the son of Vicente Calvillo and jeronima Jimenez
ma. gert. is the daughter of J. Antonio de Avila and Ma. Ines Tiscareno
Is this part of your family tree?
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Sent: Tue 3/3/2009 10:33 PM
To: Patty Hoyos
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Caterina de la Pedroza
Thanks, Richard! I cant believe it. I already had this couple in my vast database! What drove me off was I had Catarina de la Pedroza in my database "hija de Marcos Pedroza y María de Nava" and in another part of my database I had her listed as Catalina López de Nava, hija de Marcos Pedroza and María Lopes. I need to check where and when she is listed as López de Nava. I know at least one document she uses her mother's name. I need to cite my sources on my PAF more often, but when I was younger I was ignorant at the fact, the importance of citing for future refernce. I have María and Juana both using there grandmother's surname Izazzi y Cuevas. Juana Izzazi y Cuevas (or Izzazi y Martín del Campo) married my ancestor Nicolás Díaz y Tiscareño bef 1731 not sure when, perhaps you do, Richard? They at least had one daughter Fabiana D. y. Tsño. Juana died in Aug 1730, a year later Nicolás married my 7x grt grandmother, Dionicia de la Pedroza, this marriage on 5 apr 1731 in Lagos de Moreno required a dispensa which I have becuase Dionicia was 2nd cousin to Juana Izzazi y Cuevas. They had Nicolás Miguel Díaz Tiscareño baptized 1734 in Ojuelos, who had J. Joaquín
Díaz Tiscareño abt 1765 who had Ma. Guadalupe Díaz Tiscareño abt 1785 en "La Chona" who had José Antonio Rubio de Borbón 1814 in Tepa, who had María Dariía Atilana Rubio de Borbón in 1856 who had Lucía de Serrano 1887 who had my grandfather Martín Méndez 1917 who had my father J. Gabriel Méndez 1956 who had me. -Daniel Camino
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Calvillo family
I am related only through marriage, not directly. Vicente Fernando Martínez de Calvillo was born
3 Aug 1740 in Aguas and baptized 12 Aug 1740 hijo de Felipe Judas M. de C. y Teresa Muñoz de Hermosillo, and there ancestors go on...do you have these guys?
-Daniel
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Calvillo family
Thank you, I am also not related to them but I also do the genealogy of inlaws.I only have what I gave you . i do not have their ancestors. I just found the information yesterdY that I gave you today. Can you please give me their ancestors.
I have Munoz de hermosillo but I don't hook up yet
Until your emails i had not come across this name. It was a surprise when I worked on cristina palomar Loriot and verea y Palomar genealogy and it hooked up with the name you had been emailing recently.
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Sent: Thu 3/5/2009 7:05 PM
To: Patty Hoyos
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Calvillo family
I am related only through marriage, not directly. Vicente Fernando Martínez de Calvillo was born
3 Aug 1740 in Aguas and baptized 12 Aug 1740 hijo de Felipe Judas M. de C. y Teresa Muñoz de Hermosillo, and there ancestors go on...do you have these guys?
-Daniel
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