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  • By Visitor (not verified) | Fri, 2006-04-07 19:45

    Hello all,

    My name is Tony Diaz... I live in Chicago, born and raised on the South Side
    (southeast, near the Indiana border). Any South Side Mexicans here with
    roots in Zacatecas?

    My grandfather was born in or around Momax, about 1890 or so. He emigrated
    in 1910 work in the then-booming steel industry here in the city. If anyone
    is or has ancestors from this area, any information you can provide to help me
    with my budding research project would be much appreciated.

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    arturoramos

    19 years 3 months ago

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    Welcome Tony!

    Tony:

    Welcome to the group. I am sure that you will find plenty of people willing to help you out with your research here, especially if you are willing to share your success stories. I think one of the great aspects of the group is getting to share in the successes of others such that when we are up against a brick wall, it is inspirational to see someone else make a breakthrough...

    Here are my suggestions as to how to proceed.

    The best resource is the LDS church and their website familysearch.org. They tend to only index events (baptisms and marriages) prior to 1900 so your grandfather's birth is right at the cusp of that so it would be very helpful to find out what his parents' names were... so:

    1. Try to find an older relative who might know what his parents' names were

    2. Find his death record in the social security death index and request a copy of his social security application which will list his parents

    3. Find his marriage record... where was he married? In Chicago? His marriage record should list his parents

    NEXT:

    Go to the FILMS section of the site and find the marriages for Momax at the end of the 1800s and try to find his parent's marriage record. It may be that they were married in a neighboring town so you should try towns like Tlaltenango... look in the maps section and see what other towns are nearby. You will find that people often moved, though usually not too far.

    Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

    BTW... what is your grandfather's name?

    Profile picture for user arturoramos

    arturoramos

    19 years 3 months ago

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    Welcome Tony!

    Tony:

    Welcome to the group. I am sure that you will find plenty of people willing to help you out with your research here, especially if you are willing to share your success stories. I think one of the great aspects of the group is getting to share in the successes of others such that when we are up against a brick wall, it is inspirational to see someone else make a breakthrough...

    Here are my suggestions as to how to proceed.

    The best resource is the LDS church and their website familysearch.org. They tend to only index events (baptisms and marriages) prior to 1900 so your grandfather's birth is right at the cusp of that so it would be very helpful to find out what his parents' names were... so:

    1. Try to find an older relative who might know what his parents' names were

    2. Find his death record in the social security death index and request a copy of his social security application which will list his parents

    3. Find his marriage record... where was he married? In Chicago? His marriage record should list his parents

    NEXT:

    Go to the FILMS section of the site and find the marriages for Momax at the end of the 1800s and try to find his parent's marriage record. It may be that they were married in a neighboring town so you should try towns like Tlaltenango... look in the maps section and see what other towns are nearby. You will find that people often moved, though usually not too far.

    Good luck. Let us know how it goes.

    BTW... what is your grandfather's name?

    longsjourney

    19 years 3 months ago

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    Welcome Tony

    I am currently working on Jerez baptism records 439867 and 439868 covering the years 1899 to 1907. If anyone needs a record checked I'd be happy to oblige. I will have them for another 4 weeks.

    Linda Castanon-Long in Everett

    gnzlzspd

    19 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to Welcome Tony by longsjourney

    Welcome Tony

    Hi Linda:

    Could you please look for Francisca Cerro(s) born 9 Mar, 1903. Her father
    was Preciliano Cerro(s) and her mother was Apolonia Gonzalez.

    Francisca was my mother, she used to say that she had been born in "Minillas
    de Jerez, Zacatecas" The only Minillas that I have found so far, is a ranch
    north of Mezquitic, Jalisco. I have ordered the film for Mezquitic for 1903
    but it will be a couple of weeks before I get it. The FHC center will be
    closed all of next week, so I am sure that will delay the film a few more
    days...

    Thank you, I appreciate your help.

    John Gonzalez
    Wildomar, CA.
    1gnzlz@verizon.net

    longsjourney

    19 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to Welcome Tony by gnzlzspd

    Welcome Tony

    John I will be at the history center on Monday and will look up the info for you, glad to be able to help.
    Linda in Everett

    John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@verizon.net> wrote:
    Hi Linda:

    Could you please look for Francisca Cerro(s) born 9 Mar, 1903. Her father
    was Preciliano Cerro(s) and her mother was Apolonia Gonzalez.

    Francisca was my mother, she used to say that she had been born in "Minillas
    de Jerez, Zacatecas" The only Minillas that I have found so far, is a ranch
    north of Mezquitic, Jalisco. I have ordered the film for Mezquitic for 1903
    but it will be a couple of weeks before I get it. The FHC center will be
    closed all of next week, so I am sure that will delay the film a few more
    days...

    Thank you, I appreciate your help.

    John Gonzalez
    Wildomar, CA.
    1gnzlz@verizon.net

    makas_nc

    19 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to Welcome Tony by longsjourney

    List Etiquette (subject change) was: Welcome Tony

    List Etiquette:

    Sorry Linda and John, but you two were the ones that did it last. Not
    picking on you since several have been doing it lately. Con cariño I
    offer up these gentle reminders that will be helpful for the whole list.

    Two things:

    1) Change the Subject heading to properly reflect the content of the message

    2) Change the Subject heading to properly reflect the content of the message

    2) Change the Subject heading to properly reflect the content of the
    message (well I guess that makes three things)

    Now that some of you are on the Digest version this applies to you also.
    don't just click reply, put in your input, and then click on Send.

    For those of you getting Digest here is what you do:

    1) Change the subject from "Digest" to "Whatever your Topic is"

    2) Cut and paste only what your message pertains to. What I mean is that
    all the other messages will be included in the Digest if you don't
    delete them. So cut and paste only pertinent information [If anyone
    needs a lesson in how to "cut and paste" I'm offering a free "to Ranchos
    members only" lesson on this. Contact me privately at makas@nc.rr.com to
    get this free instruction].

    Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

    >John I will be at the history center on Monday and will look up the info for you, glad to be able to help.
    > Linda in Everett
    >
    >John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@verizon.net> wrote:
    > Hi Linda:
    >
    >Could you please look for Francisca Cerro(s) born 9 Mar, 1903. Her father
    >was Preciliano Cerro(s) and her mother was Apolonia Gonzalez.
    >
    >Francisca was my mother, she used to say that she had been born in "Minillas
    >de Jerez, Zacatecas" The only Minillas that I have found so far, is a ranch
    >north of Mezquitic, Jalisco. I have ordered the film for Mezquitic for 1903
    >but it will be a couple of weeks before I get it. The FHC center will be
    >closed all of next week, so I am sure that will delay the film a few more
    >days...
    >
    >Thank you, I appreciate your help.
    >
    >John Gonzalez
    >Wildomar, CA.
    >1gnzlz@verizon.net
    >
    >

    longsjourney

    19 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to List Etiquette (subject change) was: Welcome Tony by makas_nc

    List Etiquette and Welcome Tony

    Thank you Joseph and I do want to welcome Tony to the group. I know you will find kindred spirits here..

    oops! guess I should change the heading?? (just a very little humor!)
    Linda in Everett

    Joseph Puentes wrote:

    List Etiquette:

    Sorry Linda and John, but you two were the ones that did it last. Not
    picking on you since several have been doing it lately. Con cariño I
    offer up these gentle reminders that will be helpful for the whole list.

    Two things:

    1) Change the Subject heading to properly reflect the content of the message

    2) Change the Subject heading to properly reflect the content of the message

    2) Change the Subject heading to properly reflect the content of the
    message (well I guess that makes three things)

    Now that some of you are on the Digest version this applies to you also.
    don't just click reply, put in your input, and then click on Send.

    For those of you getting Digest here is what you do:

    1) Change the subject from "Digest" to "Whatever your Topic is"

    2) Cut and paste only what your message pertains to. What I mean is that
    all the other messages will be included in the Digest if you don't
    delete them. So cut and paste only pertinent information [If anyone
    needs a lesson in how to "cut and paste" I'm offering a free "to Ranchos
    members only" lesson on this. Contact me privately at makas@nc.rr.com to
    get this free instruction].

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    longsjourney

    19 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to Welcome Tony by gnzlzspd

    Welcome Tony

    John I went through the entire film and there was not one single Cerro/Cerros or Serra/Serros in the records. Your Mom was not there during 1899 to 1903.. sorry, wish I could have been more help to you.
    Linda in Everett

    John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@verizon.net> wrote:
    Hi Linda:

    Could you please look for Francisca Cerro(s) born 9 Mar, 1903. Her father
    was Preciliano Cerro(s) and her mother was Apolonia Gonzalez.

    Francisca was my mother, she used to say that she had been born in "Minillas
    de Jerez, Zacatecas" The only Minillas that I have found so far, is a ranch
    north of Mezquitic, Jalisco. I have ordered the film for Mezquitic for 1903
    but it will be a couple of weeks before I get it. The FHC center will be
    closed all of next week, so I am sure that will delay the film a few more
    days...

    Thank you, I appreciate your help.

    John Gonzalez
    Wildomar, CA.
    1gnzlz@verizon.net

    longsjourney

    19 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to Welcome Tony by longsjourney

    Sorry I did it again!

    I apologize again for forgetting to change the heading... I will try harder...
    Linda in Everett

    Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:
    John I went through the entire film and there was not one single Cerro/Cerros or Serra/Serros in the records. Your Mom was not there during 1899 to 1903.. sorry, wish I could have been more help to you.
    Linda in Everett

    John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@verizon.net> wrote:
    Hi Linda:

    Could you please look for Francisca Cerro(s) born 9 Mar, 1903. Her father
    was Preciliano Cerro(s) and her mother was Apolonia Gonzalez.

    Francisca was my mother, she used to say that she had been born in "Minillas
    de Jerez, Zacatecas" The only Minillas that I have found so far, is a ranch
    north of Mezquitic, Jalisco. I have ordered the film for Mezquitic for 1903
    but it will be a couple of weeks before I get it. The FHC center will be
    closed all of next week, so I am sure that will delay the film a few more
    days...

    Thank you, I appreciate your help.

    John Gonzalez
    Wildomar, CA.
    1gnzlz@verizon.net

    gnzlzspd

    19 years 3 months ago

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    In reply to Welcome Tony by longsjourney

    Thank you

    Hi Linda:

    Thank you for your time and effort in trying to find my mother's record. I
    appreciate it.

    The only Minillas that I have found so far is North of Mezquitic, Jalisco,
    very close to the Zacatecas border. I have a film for Mezquitic that starts
    in 1903, but the problem is that it begins in November, 1903. My Mom was
    born in March. In that film, I found people from "Rancho Minillas",
    registered at the church in Mezquitic. I was hoping that the film would
    cover the whole year. I have ordered the film that covers January through
    October and I think it will be here in a couple of weeks.

    John Gonzalez
    Wildomar, CA.

    1gnzlz@verizon.net

    mmg8938 (not verified)

    18 years 7 months ago

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    In reply to Thank you by gnzlzspd

    GREETINGS

    MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR

    MAY EVERYONE FIND THAT ELUSIVE ANCESTOR THIS COMING YEAR! AND MAY EVERYONE ENJOY GOOD HEALTH

    MICKEY GARCIA
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    Pat Silva Corbera

    18 years 7 months ago

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    In reply to GREETINGS by mmg8938 (not verified)

    GREETINGS

    Thank you Mickey, for the posting this message... I also wish the same for each and every member of this wonderful group!
    Pat and Tino Corbera

    mmg8938@aol.com wrote:

    MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR

    MAY EVERYONE FIND THAT ELUSIVE ANCESTOR THIS COMING YEAR! AND MAY EVERYONE ENJOY GOOD HEALTH

    MICKEY GARCIA
    ________________________________________________________________________
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    aajay1073

    19 years 3 months ago

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    Momax, Zacatecas

    Hey Tony,

    I have lots of family from the Momax, Zacatecas area.

    What surnames are you researching?

    - Angie Godina

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