After some long reserch and help from Miguel Beltran who is realted through a marriage from Mariano's son Manuel, we have determined that Leocadia and Paula are the same person and married Estevan after Mariano died ( as you noted as widowed). Thank you so much for replying as it is tough at times to get assitace.

Happy new year!

Thank you for your help!

Dennis Romo

dennisromo@hotmail.com

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: rosehardy@hotmail.com
> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:00:42 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mariano Romo and Reyes
>
> Looking at the Pilot program, put in Reyes for the last name and Felis for the father's first name and enter Jalisco, Mexico in the location field
>
> I found a Paula and the same parents have another daughter married to a Mariano Romo
> Hmmmmmm? I would suspect this might be the right family. But it needs further research
>
> Groom's name: Estevan Silva
> Groom's birthdate: 1839
> Groom's age in years: 36
> Bride's name: Paula Reyes
> Bride's birthdate: 1845
> Bride's age in years: 30
> Marriage date: 06 Jan 1875
> Residence: Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> Marriage place: Encarnación De Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> Groom's father's name: Antonio Silva
> Groom's mother's name: Juana Landin
> Father of bride's name: Felis Reyes
> Mother of bride's name: Gregoria Ornelas
> Bride's marital status: Widowed
> Batch number: M60269-5
> Record group: Mexico-EASy
> Film number: 1155499
> Collection: Mexico Marriages 1700-1900
>
> Groom's name: Mariano Romo
> Bride's name: Leocadia Reyes
> Marriage date: 05 Nov 1863
> Residence: Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> Marriage place: Encarnación De Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> Groom's father's name: Felis Romo
> Groom's mother's name: Leocadia Oliva
> Father of bride's name: Felis De Reyes
> Mother of bride's name: Gregoria Orneles
> Batch number: M60269-5
> Record group: Mexico-EASy
> Film number: 1155499
> Collection: Mexico Marriages 1700-1900
>
> Rose
> Fresno
>
>

That is fantastic Miguel!
When our great grandmother Prudencia Carmona Lopez Beltran Romo in 1900 brought back the child named Rosario Martinez from Caquistle because her mother had died and father could not care for her. She was raised as one of thier children and my grandfather Isador considered her a sister.

Rosario Martinez married Manuel Carmona. We were always taught to call her "Tia" , it felt more honorary than actual.

To find the Carmona connection through Prudencia and Apolonio will make many of the relatives here in La Verne quite happy.

Your Primo
Dennis Romo
La Verne Ca.

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:50:32 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marriage of Mariano Romo to
>
> In fact it is so.
>
> Pioquinto Carmona and Lorenza Lopez had at least:
>
>
>
> 1. MARIA LUCIA CARMONA LOPES - International Genealogical Index
> Gender: Female Christening: 16 OCT 1827 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> 2. APOLONIO CARMONA LOPEZ - International Genealogical Index
> Gender: Male Christening: 12 APR 1830 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> 3. PRUDENCIA CARMONA LOPES - International Genealogical Index
> Gender: Female Christening: 29 APR 1822 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> 4. JUAN NEPOMUCENO CARMONA LOPEZ - International Genealogical Index
> Gender: Male Christening: 18 MAY 1825 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
>
> Name: Juan Nepomuceno Carmona Lopez
> Gender: Male
> Christening date: 18 May 1825
> Christening place: La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> Residence: Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> Birth date:
> Birthplace:
> Death date:
> Name note:
> Race or color (expanded):
> Father's name: Pioquinto Carmona
> Father's birthplace:
> Father's age:
> Mother's name: Lorenza Lopez
> Mother's birthplace:
> Mother's age:
> Paternal grandfather's name: Rafael Carmona
> Paternal grandmother's name: Maria Cruz Manual
> Maternal grandfather's name: Luciano Lopez
> Maternal grandmother's name: Maria Guade. Ernandes
> Batch number: C60269-7
> Date range:
> Record group: Mexico-EASy
> Film number: 1155174
> Collection: Mexico Baptisms 1700-1900
>
>
> Miguel Beltran

That is fantastic Miguel!
When our great grandmother Prudencia Carmona Lopez Beltran Romo in 1900 brought back the child named Rosario Martinez from Caquistle because her mother had died and father could not care for her. She was raised as one of thier children and my grandfather Isador considered her a sister.

Rosario Martinez married Manuel Carmona. We were always taught to call her "Tia" , it felt more honorary than actual.

To find the Carmona connection through Prudencia and Apolonio will make many of the relatives here in La Verne quite happy.

Your Primo
Dennis Romo
La Verne Ca.

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 04:50:32 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marriage of Mariano Romo to
>
> In fact it is so.
>
> Pioquinto Carmona and Lorenza Lopez had at least:
>
>
>
> 1. MARIA LUCIA CARMONA LOPES - International Genealogical Index
> Gender: Female Christening: 16 OCT 1827 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> 2. APOLONIO CARMONA LOPEZ - International Genealogical Index
> Gender: Male Christening: 12 APR 1830 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> 3. PRUDENCIA CARMONA LOPES - International Genealogical Index
> Gender: Female Christening: 29 APR 1822 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> 4. JUAN NEPOMUCENO CARMONA LOPEZ - International Genealogical Index
> Gender: Male Christening: 18 MAY 1825 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
>
> Name: Juan Nepomuceno Carmona Lopez
> Gender: Male
> Christening date: 18 May 1825
> Christening place: La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> Residence: Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico
> Birth date:
> Birthplace:
> Death date:
> Name note:
> Race or color (expanded):
> Father's name: Pioquinto Carmona
> Father's birthplace:
> Father's age:
> Mother's name: Lorenza Lopez
> Mother's birthplace:
> Mother's age:
> Paternal grandfather's name: Rafael Carmona
> Paternal grandmother's name: Maria Cruz Manual
> Maternal grandfather's name: Luciano Lopez
> Maternal grandmother's name: Maria Guade. Ernandes
> Batch number: C60269-7
> Date range:
> Record group: Mexico-EASy
> Film number: 1155174
> Collection: Mexico Baptisms 1700-1900
>
>
> Miguel Beltran