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The LDS gave me an answer on the missing files from 1865 San Miguel El Alto. They said that either they had been overlooked or had been destroyed, but that I may write the church to see if they might have the missing 1865 records. She said I might also try the civil records, but the civil records did not start until after 1865! For those of you looking for records in San Miguel El Alto, please be aware that the film for baptisms 1865 is not complete. Only the first six months of 1865 are contained on the film. LDS said I might also try confirmations.

Maureen,

Linda is correct in that confirmation records only list the names of those being confirmed and their Godparents. That was the requirement per the diocese, not by the parish or local priest. In the 1600's, 1700's and the early 1800's it was per the decree of the Spanish court or La cedula real. Usually the bishop would travel to all the parishes to administer the Sacrament of Confirmation. It might take the bishop a few years to make it back to each parish again so you will find confirmation records anywhere from every 2 years to every 7-10 years. In some instances they might have to go to another church to be confirmed other than their own parish if the Bishop could not come to their town. In that case you would look in neighboring parishes for confirmation records but I wouldn't necessarily advise you to do that because the information you glean from that will be minimal.

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Thanks Smiley,

Now that you sent this I think we have driven this route once before, many many years ago and it was very narrow and very precarious due to the steep cliffs and dropoffs and very, very scary. That was long before I got into genealogy and paid attention to names of towns and their locations relative to our hometown of Nochistlan, Zac.

Hola Fernando,

Es posible que falta informacion de la otra iglesia porque no existia antes
de 1921? Yo he estado estudiando los bautismos de Cuquio en microfilm y lo
que yo he visto que los que muchos de los que nacian en Cuquio los

I have found also the word "comparecio," preceding someone's name and
translate that to mean: appears (person's name), meaning they appear before
the judge. So, in a particular civil record, it would say in such and such

Hi everyone, I have finally submitted some reports,
they're not much, but it's a start=) I have mostly
obtained the info from census, marriage, baptism, etc.
films from the family history library. I may be going

...Howdy Everyone...just wanted to let ya know that I finally (with some help, of course) have placed my Jalisco Connections folder here:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15363

...here is a link to my photos album, which I will be adding to today. We have a couple of Posadas to attend, so I will post some of those too. I will be adding some photos of our reccent outing for the perfect "Flor de Pena" for all of our "navedenas."

>
> Hello Welester,

The book I have is titled "Fundadores de Nueva Galicia". Perhaps your
friend was referring to another book by Garmendia Leal. I believe he has
authored others. I checked my book and I see some Alvarados on page 30, but

Soy Celestino A Villalobos, un miembro nuevo de "Nuestros Ranchos" Tal vez la desicion de Joseph Puente, de cortar la membresia de todos aquellos que no han presentado alugunas lineas de sus genealogias en "Nuestros Ranchos", es muy drastica, tal vez sea la persona menos indicada para hablar sobre el tema, lo que si se es que todo tiene una razon de ser. Como nuevo miembro he revisado casi toda la lista de miembros con sus archivos genealogicos y en verdad me han impresionado, como algunos de sus miembros han echo un gigantescos esfuerzos al trazar sus lineas de sus antepasados, y uno de ellos naturalmente es el mismo Joseph Puentes, y otros que sobresalen en sus investigaciones tambien, lo que representa largas horas de dedicacion durante dias, semans,meses y años un esfuerzo constante y conciente. Movidos por sentimientos y fuerzas mas haya de nuestra comprension. La mayoria de la informacion en los archivos de "Nuestros Ranchos" en lo personal a mi no me ayuda en nada,

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Greatings . In my search wile reading my grandfathers birth certificate i came acros the word -ELCOMPARECIENDE,this was in front of my great grandmothers name i assumed this was a name so after weeks of looking came up with nothing.

Howdy Joseph,

I have been working with several members of the Mormon church and one of them is in charge of a Family Search Center , yesterday he lent me a copy of births in the town or pueblo of Juchipila , Zacatecas the years are 1871 to 1884 . The film and batch #'s are 1156151 (f) and 64671-2 (b)

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For the genealogy of the Vicente Zaldivar that came to COahuila/Nuevo Leon see my gedcom on this site.
This Vicente Zaldivar was the son of Juan Guerra Reza and Magdalena Zaldivar Mendoza and therefore was the nephew of Vicente Zaldivar Mendoza who participated in the New MExico expedition of his uncle Onate.Vicente Zaldivar married Maria Sosa, daughter of Alonso Farias and Ana Sosa ( daughter of Betriz Navarro Rodriguez and Alonso ALbernoz de Sosa - New Mexico expedition)). Ana Zaldivar daughter of

From: Robert Alegre [mailto:ralegre_2000@yahoo.com]
Date: December 14, 2006

Dear Colleagues,

El Universal announced yesterday that plans are in the
works to cut the AGN's budget by over 50%. The staff

Hi Maria ,

That's the second time in two days that I heard the name Garmendia Leal , I was at a book release yesterday in Monterrey , Mexico where the Board of Education had a ceremony of thier new book titled " Municipios de Nuevo Leon sus Simbolos , Cultura y Conocimeinto . One of the genealogist there mentioned to me that in the Garmendia Leal book he saw several Alvarado's dating back to the 1600's in Villa de Santiago in the state of Nuevo Leon . If you have the time could you check this out for me please .

Many in the group have already complied, but many have not. If you've
already submitted your genealogy just relax. . .you're a life member of
the Nuestros Ranchos group.

For those that haven't submitted their work I get a little nervous when

Many in the group have already complied, but many have not. If you've
already submitted your genealogy just relax. . .you're a life member of
the Nuestros Ranchos group.

For those that haven't submitted their work I get a little nervous when

Hi there Josie ,

I did a quick serch in www.familysearch.org and found 58 Liendos in Coahuila ..... 22 in Tamaulipas ..... 10 in Jalisco , also note that I found 0 in Zacatecas and 0 in Aguascaliente .

I was looking for my grandmother's civil birth record on microfilm for the
Guadalajara District, because my mother had said her mother was born in
Guadalajara on May 25th, 1907. However, I didn't find my grandmother's

How do you sign on? I can't seem to get past the form to be filled
out. It doesn't like my address or phone number nor my
identification. What should I be putting there?

Linda Romero

On Sep 4, 2006, at 3:29 PM, research-

Hi Corrine ,

My name is Welester G. Alvarado and Im trying to trace my family from Villa de Santiago Nuevo Leon back through Saltillo , Coahuila to Zacatecas . Any way the reason for this mail is to share with you a common thing in those times . My family starting with my father and going backwards were all white with blue or grey violete eyes and blond hair . This was I suppose the spanish in them . A lot of the mixed or mistizos alos had these looks .

Where in Zacatecas did you find you Liendos? What given names?
--
Esther A. Herold

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> Hi Bill!

Sorry, folks,

this bounced the first time I tried to send it.
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