By Evie |

Lorenso De Miramontes and Maria De Santiago had a son, Ysidro De Miramontes who married Bernarda De Avila 21 Jan 1709. Brigida De Miramontes who married Rafael Pinto De Avila 23 Jan 1735 was the padrina. This is my Avila connection to the Miramontes family and I wonder if anyone can provide information or assist me. Thank you. Evie

I have never EVER received a response to a query so this is quite exciting. However, I have little to share. Bernarda Avila's parents are Juan De Avila and Francisca De Lerma who are also the parents of Juan Avila who married Josepha Ximenez. One roadblock after another - always. I cannot even locate Francisca's parents. Barnarda was married to Ysidro De Miramontes and his father was Lorenso who was married to Maria De Santiago. What is Brigida's relationship?

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: josecarlos1944@hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 14:04:19 -0800
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Miramontes connection
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> I have both Lorenzo and Brigida Miramontes.
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> e-mail me josecarlos1944@hotmail.com so that we can share info
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> Jose Carlos de Leon

Brigida Miramontes parents are Lorenzo miramontes and Maria Ana Diaz de Santiago. She was born abt 1675 to 1680. She married Francisco de Raigoza and had a son Jose Raigoza in 1703. Francisco died abt 1703 and Brigida remarried in 1704 to an "X Miramontes" (who I suspect the marriage record was in error) because there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that the "X" was really Xtopal Gonzales. It is not unusual for Church records to contain these kind of errors (I've seen hundreds of such gross errors.
However you are mistaken in Brigida's husband being Rafael Pinto De Avila.
In 1735 Rafael Pinto De Avila married Maria Gonsales Miramonttes daughter of a Brigida Miramontes and Xtopal/Cristobal Gonzales.

e-mail me cuz I have other children for Lorenzo,

Jose Carlos de Leon

her marriage record with "X Miramontes" 02 Jul 1704 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roma records her parents The record image :
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30836442/person/26063914583/mediax/8c7ce…

the IGI
Name X. De Miramontes Birth Date Birthplace Age Spouse's Name Brigida De Miramontes Spouse's Birth Date Spouse's Birthplace Spouse's Age Event Date 02 Jul 1704 Event Place Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman,Zacatecas,Mexico Father's Name Mother's Name Spouse's Father's Name Lorenzo De Miramontes Spouse's Mother's Name Ana De Santiago Race Marital Status Previous Wife's Name Spouse's Race Spouse's Marital Status Spouse's Previous Husband's Name Indexing Project (Batch) Number M60713-9 System Origin Mexico-ODM GS Film number 443968

The "X Miramontes" is probably a gross error; I'm 90% sure it is Xptobal Gonzales because of his daughter Maria's baptism in 02 Oct 1707 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roma to which Evie refers to Maria Gonzales's marriage 23 Jan 1735 to Rafael Pinto De Avila. see both IGIs below

spouse: Xpttobal Gonsales
child: Maria Gonsales Miramonttes
Name Maria Gonsales Miramonttes
Gender Female
Christening Date 02 Oct 1707
Christening Place TLALTENANGO DE SANCHEZ ROMAN,ZACATECAS,MEXICO
Birth Date
Birthplace
Death Date
Name Note
Race
Father's Name Xpttobal Gonsales
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's Name Brigida De Miramonttes
Mother's Birthplace
Mother's Age
Paternal Grandfather's Name
Paternal Grandmother's Name
Maternal Grandfather's Name
Maternal Grandmother's Name
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C60089-3
System Origin Mexico-ODM
GS Film number 443801

Name Rafael Pinto De Abila
Birth Date
Birthplace
Age
Spouse's Name Maria Getrudis Gonsales
Spouse's Birth Date
Spouse's Birthplace
Spouse's Age
Event Date 23 Jan 1735
Event Place Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman,Zacatecas,Mexico
Father's Name Marcos Pinto De Abila
Mother's Name Rosa Maria De Placensia
Spouse's Father's Name Xpstoval Gonsales
Spouse's Mother's Name Brigida De Miramontes
Race
Marital Status
Previous Wife's Name
Spouse's Race
Spouse's Marital Status
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name
Indexing Project (Batch) Number M60713-9
System Origin Mexico-ODM
GS Film number 443968

Jose Carlos de Leon

my connection to him is that his great granddaughter Petra Regalada Raigoza married my 5th great granduncle Juan Ydelfonso Mayorga in 19 Feb 1753 Tlaltenango De Sanchez Roman, Zacatecas, Mexico.

My primo Joseph Puentes reccomends that I should share with Nuestros Ranchos my Lorenzo Miramontes data, this is what I have found so far:

1 Lorenzo de Miramontes b: 26 JUL 1638
+ Maria Ana Diaz de Santiago b: MAR 1649
2 Margarita Miramontes b: SEP 1670
2 Miguel Miramontes b: FEB 1696
2 Getrudis Miramontes b: JUN 1692
2 Brigida de Miramontes b: ABT 1675
+ Francisco de Raigoza b: ABT 1675 d: BEF 1704
3 Jose Cayetano Raigoza b: JAN 1703
+ Catarina Sandoval b: ABT 1703
4 Petra Regalada Raigoza b: ABT 1733
+ Juan Ydelfonso Mayorga b: MAY 1720
5 Francisca Romana Mayorga b: MAR 1757
5 Maria De Jesus Mayorga b: MAY 1769
5 Jose Maria Mayorga b: JUL 1763
5 Antonia Lugarda Mayorga b: APR 1755
5 Juana De Dios Mayorga b: MAR 1761
5 Maria Rosalia Mayorga b: JAN 1754
5 Jose Antonio Mayorga b: MAR 1766
+ X Miramontes b: ABT 1675
2 Ysidro Miramontes b: ABT 1689
+ Bernarda De Avila b: ABT 1689
3 Maria Antonia Miramontes b: ABT 1733
+ Hipolito Macias Balades b: ABT 1733
3 Ysidro Miramontes Jr b: APR 1721
+ Sebastiana Faustina De Campos b: ABT 1726
3 Ana Manuela Miramontes b: JUL 1717

Jose Carlos de Leon

This dispensa connects Cristobal Gonzalez to Cecilia Sandoval daughter of Juan Moscoso y Sandoval and Catalina Cortes..

Rafael Pinto de Avila m. Maria Gertrudis Gonzalez
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-65PB-C?i=219&wc=125127…

It also places Rosa Maria (Maria de la Rosa) Plascencia m. Marcos Pinto de Avila as a daughter of Pedro Plascencia Maldonado and Melchora de los Reyes Moscoso y Sandoval

i wonder if your juan de avila also went by the name first name onofre. you see one of my acestors had a brother named onofre, who was married to a francisca lerma

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