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Gutierrez from Jalos

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  • By mariomexusa | Sat, 2015-07-18 06:55

    Hi Everyone.

    My name is Mario Gutierrez, and I am interested in researching genealogy information on my paternal side (Gutierrez); as well as looking into leads from my grandmother's (Maria del Refugio Romero born in Sombrerete, Zacatecas) side of the family.

    My Grandfather was Jose Genovevo Gutierrez. My family says he was born in Jalostitlan on January 3, 1872. His parents were Albino Gutierrez and Amada Guerrero. From what I have found, I was able to connect an Albino Gutierrez and Amada Guerrero as the indicated parents of Jose Genovevo Gutierrez

    I found possible information on my grandfather (Jose Genovevo Gutierrez) being baptized on January 6, 1884 in Jalostotitlan according to FHL Film Number 279275.

    Other information that might connect Jose Genovevo Gutierrez with his parents is: a marriage between an Albino Gutierrez and Amada Guerrerro on February 23, 1876 at Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion in Jalostotitlan as per FHL Film Number: 279306. That same film citation places Albino's birth year as 1855.

    My grandfather (Jose Genovevo) worked in the railroad in Aguascalientes before immigrating to the United States to work for the Santa Fe railroad. He settled in El Paso, Texas.

    If anyone one has any information connecting to my grandfather, I would greatly appreciate it. I will continue searching, and I hope I, too, can help all of you.

    --Mario

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    R.A.Ricci (not verified)

    10 years ago

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    Albinos marriage record

    Hello Mario,

    Do you have any information on known uncles and aunts to help make the connection? I have seen records where the child was baptized a couple of years after being born. My wife's great grandfather was also ten years younger than everyone thought. The January 3 looks correct, just the year is off.

    Here is Albino Gutierrez's marriage record

    Albino Gutierrez
    mentioned in the record of Albino Gutierrez and Amada Guerrero
    Name: Albino Gutierrez
    Birth Date: 1855
    Age: 21
    Spouse's Name: Amada Guerrero
    Spouse's Birth Date: 1856
    Spouse's Age: 20
    Event Date: 23 Feb 1876
    Event Place: Nuestra Señora De La Asunción, Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, Mexico
    Father's Name: Julian gutierrez
    Mother's Name: Sabina Gutierrez

    Spouse's Father's Name: Teodoro Guerrero
    Spouse's Mother's Name: Tomasa Chavez
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60323-6 , System Origin: Mexico-EASy , GS Film number: 279306 ,

    Julian Gutierrez and Sabina Gutierrez are the parents of Placisda Gutierrez
    Placida was baptized the 14/Oct/1856 in Acahuales.
    I had a little trouble reading the abuela paterna

    Abuelos paternos: Jose Maria Gutierrez and Claudia Gomez or Gamez. It looks more like Gamez to me.

    Abuelos maternos: Miguel Gutierrez and Maria de Los Santos Gomez

    You can see the record here:

    https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18447-33734-47?cc=1874591&wc…

    Julian Gutierres
    mentioned in the record of Julian Gutierres and Savina Gutierres
    Name: Julian Gutierres
    Birth Date: 1821
    Age: 32
    Spouse's Name: Savina Gutierres
    Spouse's Birth Date: 1833
    Spouse's Age: 20
    Event Date: 12 Nov 1853
    Event Place: San Francisco De Asís, Tepatitlán De Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico
    Father's Name: Jose Maria Gutierres
    Mother's Name: Claudia Gomes
    Spouse's Father's Name: Miguel Gutierres
    Spouse's Mother's Name: Maria De Los Santos Gomes
    Previous Wife's Name: Agapita Alvares
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60373-6 , System Origin: Mexico-EASy , GS Film number: 218526 , Reference ID: 771 ,

    Name: Teodoro Guerrero
    Birth Date: 1832
    Age: 19
    Spouse's Name: Tomasa Chaves
    Spouse's Birth Date: 1833
    Spouse's Age: 18
    Event Date: 09 Jul 1851
    Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
    Father's Name: Faustino Guerrero
    Mother's Name: Patricia Ponce
    Spouse's Father's Name: Jose Maria Chaves
    Spouse's Mother's Name: Gregoria Losa
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60323-4 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279304

    Ma. Teodora Lomeli
    mentioned in the record of Juan Jose Ponze and Ma. Teodora Lomeli
    Name: Juan Jose Ponze
    Spouse's Name: Ma. Teodora Lomeli
    Event Date: 08 May 1799
    Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-8 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279299no Guerrero
    Spouse's Name: Patricia Ponze
    Event Date: 09 May 1827
    Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
    Father's Name: Vicente Guerrero
    Mother's Name: Juana Valdivia
    Spouse's Father's Name: Juan Ponse
    Spouse's Mother's Name: Teodora Lomelin
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60323-1 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279301

    Ma. Teodora Lomeli
    mentioned in the record of Juan Jose Ponze and Ma. Teodora Lomeli
    Name: Juan Jose Ponze
    Spouse's Name: Ma. Teodora Lomeli
    Event Date: 08 May 1799
    Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-8 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279299

    Lucia Petronila Lomelin Rodrigues
    Other information in the record of Lucia Petronila Lomelin Rodrigues
    from Mexico Baptisms
    Name: Lucia Petronila Lomelin Rodrigues
    Gender: Female
    Christening Date: 04 Jan 1750
    Christening Place: NOCHISTLAN,ZACATECAS,MEXICO
    Father's Name: Vicente Ferrer De Lomelin
    Mother's Name: Ysabel Rodrigues De Frias

    Maria Teodora Lomeli is the daughter of Antonio Lomelin and Maria Josefa Rodriguez

    Juan Jose Ponse is the son of Joaquin Ponse and Isabel Rodriguez

    The record is # 341 of 375
    https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18447-26625-18?cc=1874591&wc…

    Jph. Gerardo Rodrigz.
    Spouse's Name: Maria Marcela De Robalcaba
    Event Date: 25 Feb 1756
    Event Place: Nochistlan,Zacatecas,Mexico
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60625-7 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 226726

    Name: Josse Maria Norato Gutierrez
    Spouse's Name: Maria Claudia Gamez
    Event Date: 31 Jan 1810
    Event Place: Nuestra Señora De La Asunción, Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, Mexico
    Father's Name: Antonio Gutierrez
    Mother's Name: Anna Maria Plasencia
    Spouse's Father's Name: Lucas Gamez
    Spouse's Mother's Name: Maria Gregoria Garzia
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-9 , System Origin: Mexico-EASy , GS Film number: 279300

    Jose Miguel Gutierrez
    mentioned in the record of Jose Miguel Gutierrez and Maria Santos Gomez
    Name: Jose Miguel Gutierrez
    Spouse's Name: Maria Santos Gomez
    Event Date: 31 Dec 1828
    Event Place: Tepatitlan De Morelos,Jalisco,Mexico
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60373-2 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 218522 ,

    Miguel is the Son of Isidro gutierrez and Ana Isidore carranza
    Maria de Los Santos is the Daughter of Jose Maria Gomez and Bartola Macias

    Josse Maria Gomez
    mentioned in the record of Josse Maria Gomez and Bartola Macias
    Name: Josse Maria Gomez
    Spouse's Name: Bartola Macias
    Event Date: 15 May 1796
    Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-8 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279299

    You can see a record here:
    https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18560-15315-10?cc=1874591&wc…

    There is probably a record of of dispensation that will provide more genealogical information for the following marriage.

    Ysidro Gutierres
    mentioned in the record of Paulin Carranza and Micaela Gutierres
    Name: Ysidro Gutierres
    Gender: Male
    Wife Anita Carranza
    Daughter Micaela Gutierres
    Other information in the record of Paulin Carranza and Micaela Gutierres
    from Mexico Marriages
    Name: Paulin Carranza
    Spouse's Name: Micaela Gutierres
    Event Date: 07 Feb 1816
    Event Place: Tepatitlan De Morelos,Jalisco,Mexico
    Father's Name: Crecencio Carranza
    Mother's Name: Deonicia Briceno
    Spouse's Father's Name: Ysidro Gutierres
    Spouse's Mother's Name: Anita Carranza
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60372-8 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 218519 ,

    Lucas Ypolito Gamez
    mentioned in the record of Lucas Ypolito Gamez and Maria Gregoria Garcia
    Name: Lucas Ypolito Gamez
    Spouse's Name: Maria Gregoria Garcia
    Event Date: 13 Feb 1773
    Event Place: Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60322-6 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279297

    Jose Maria Norato Gutierres Placiencia
    Mexico Baptisms
    Name: Jose Maria Norato Gutierres Placiencia
    Gender: Male
    Christening Date: 17 Feb 1787
    Christening Place: SAN MIGUEL EL ALTO,JALISCO,MEXICO
    Father's Name: Antonio Gutierres
    Mother's Name: Ana Maria Placiencia
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60329-1 , System Origin: Mexico-ODM , GS Film number: 279422

    mariomexusa

    10 years ago

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    In reply to Albinos marriage record by R.A.Ricci (not verified)

    Jose Genovevo Gutierrez brother

    I do know that my great Grandfather (Jose Genovevo Gutierrez), born in Jalostotitlan January 3, 1884 (per civil registry record) and baptized January 6, 1884 (per church record) had a brother by the name of Francisco Gutierrez. I don't know when Francisco was born, yet. Of course, my Great Grandfather was supposedly born on January 3, 1872, but I have still have yet to find such a record to match the oral history.

    Returning to his (Jose Genovevo's) brother, all I know so far is that Francisco Gutierrez had a daughter (Josefina) and I believe a son (Albino) that lived in Guadalajara. Josefina Gutierrez married a Salvador Leal, and last lived in Guadalajara.

    I don't know about any other existing siblings for Jose Genovevo Gutierrez, but I am still investigating that.

    I did want to add a comment of great appreciation for the quick and extensively detailed history you provided. Wow! I hope I get that quick at researching and synthesizing information. It truly has been an treasure finding more leads into my family history. Thank you!

    --Mario

    R.A.Ricci (not verified)

    10 years ago

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    In reply to Jose Genovevo Gutierrez brother by mariomexusa

    Francisco Gutierrez Guerrero

    Francisco Gutierrez Guerrero, Jose Genovevo Gutierrez Guerrero 's brother:
    Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950
    christening: 4 October 1877 Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, Mexico
    residence: Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, Mexico
    father: Albino Gutierrez
    mother: Amada Guerrero

    Padrinos son los abuelos paternos

    Bautismos de hijos legitimos 1877-1885
    Image 28 of 484

    Or just press here:

    https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18688-107643-5?cc=1874591&wc…

    Your welcome, I am glad I was able to help.
    Please let me know how you research progresses

    Thank you for the compliments,
    Rick A Ricci

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