By ochoa88 |

I recently took an Ancestry.com DNA test and when I got the results I was a bit puzzled. From my research I was expecting mainly Spanish, Native American and maybe some Mediterranean traces but I was surprised to see a high percentage of Great Britain 25%. Has anyone else from the Jalisco region received similar results?
Thanks!

That's a high percentage! My grandmother has a 10% for British Isles and 8% for Scandinavia. There is no paper trail that leads to either of those locations-- I guess those genes are persistent! My grandma's family is originally from the Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Guanajuato areas.

Hola a todos:

Pues sería útil que pudieran qué apellidos consideran probables para indicar un origen británico. Mis tíos Ramírez de Coy se hicieron el estudio YDNA y salió un 12% origen británico y otro 12% de Holanda. Éste último se relaciona con nuestros ancestros Alfaro Bravo de Lagunas, pero el británico podría provenir de los Ramírez o de los Dunan (Diinen).

Richard Ricci tiene una hipótesis sobre los Ledesma que podrían descender de un rey inglés, yo estudio a los Ledesma que provienen de Aguascalientes pero creo que fueron alemanes de Cracovia. Será necesario esperar a que hayan más resultados.

Saludos

Marcelina

Hola Marcelina,

Los apellidos que se pueden encontrar en mi arbol hasta bisabuelos son: Ochoa, Casillas, Magaña, Guzman, Cardenas, Soto, Mejia, Larios, Lazarid, Luna, Urzua, De la Mora. Ninguno suena ingles, es por eso que me sorprendio el resultado de ADN. No se que tan preciso sea la prueba de Ancestry.com pero estoy pensando en probar 23andme para despejar cualquier confusion. Solo queria saber si alguien mas se ha encontrado con resultados similares.

Gracias y saludos!

Enrique

Dear Rosa,

I disagree with your comment that there is no paper trail as I have constructed a paper trail from Jalisco to Great Britain and Scandinavia. These lines are a minority so there won't be a high percentage but I do have a step by step trail. It is a long trail of many, many centuries. Many of the people with different surnames that came to populate the new world were already related as third to seventh cousins and they descend from a common ancestor with a little British, little Scandinavian, little Italian little North African, little German, little Armenian,little middle eastern, more French and much more Iberian peninsula ancestries. The majority is Iberian Peninsula and what is now southern France.

Rick A. Ricci

Hola a todos:

Es verdad que hay algunas migraciones que se pueden rastrear por acontecimientos históricos, por ejemplo los romanos llevaron a España a muchos eslavos para ayudar en el cultivo de tierras roturadas. Pero además de esas migraciones antiguas existió movilidad debido a la pertenencia de hombres a los ejércitos regulares y a las órdenes militares.

Muchos soldados pasaron al sur de Francia y Norte de España en la cruzada contra los cátaros.

Mi ancestro Juan Bravo de Lagunas, conquistador de México desciende la rama de Brabante, Holanda y fue en 1548 el primer alcalde de Chichimecas, ahora Querétaro, Guanajuato, San Luis Potosí.

Sería interesante investigar la rama de la familia Casillas respecto del origen británico y la familia De la Mora como posible descendiente de eslavos. Hay apellidos que sí revelan su orígen por ejemplo "Farfán de los Godos" cuyos descendientes pasaron a Nueva España.

Guzmán proviene de Ibn Qutman.

Saludos

Marcelina

Dear Rosalinda,

I took a look at your files and looked at the surnames that you are researching. Some of those surnames are names that I have been researching. I would have to see more of your files though to make a connection to my lines of research.

I have an small addition to your records. You wrote the following:

10. JOSE ANTONIO TEODORO4 URENA (ANTONIO EUCEBIO /DE3 URENA/, CALLETANO XINEZ /DE2, FRANCISCO/DE1) was born 1772. He married MARIA TOMASA DE LOS DOLORES SANCHEZ 16 Aug 1802 in Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas, Mexico25, daughter of JUAN SANCHEZ and MARIA VELASCO. She was born in Rancho de Las Bocas, Huejucar, Jalisco, Mexico25.

In the following marriage record you will find that the surname of Maria Tomasa de Los Dolores is Sanchez Castellanos and not just Sanchez.

Name Ramon Delgado
Spouse's Name Maria Del Carmen Urena
Event Date 02 May 1821
Event Place San Luis,Colotlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Citing this Record
"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC6V-9YZ : 15 July 2015), Ramon Delgado and Maria Del Carmen Urena, 02 May 1821; citing San Luis,Colotlan,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ;

FHL microfilm 443,784. Image 41 out of 482

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-FSS8-R2?mode=g&i=40&wc=3J4…

Rick A. Ricci

You cannot simply look at the numerical result provided in the ancestry.com DNA report, you also have to look at the ranges, or uncertainties in those numbers.

Both my wife (who is of Mexican descent through all of her ancestors, with a typical mix of Spanish, Basque, Indian, and black ancestors) and I (with mainly British Isles and Central European ancestors, but no Mexican ancestry) did the ancestry.com test. My wife's Great Britain component is 3%, with a range of 0-13%. Based on our research a number closer to 0% makes more sense. My result is 18%, with a range of 0-44%. Based on our research, a number higher than 18% makes more sense.

The report is a specific number, with a range. Your "true" result could be anywhere in that range.

My point is that these numbers are only estimates, and some are subject to very substantial uncertainty.

George

George,
I have looked at the ranges, in my case the Great Britain ranges goes from 10%-40% . Even going by the lowest percentage, 10%, it is still more than I would've expected (0%) . Maybe this is something that has to do with the part of Spain that my ancestors were from. My Iberian percentage is at 20% with a range going from 10%-31%, which based on my research should be on the higher end.

Thanks,
Enrique

Enrique

When my wife and I looked at our Irish results, for example, we were both surprised. Our results were exactly the same, 11%. I have documented Irish ancestors, and my wife has none.

My conclusion is that ethnicity estimates are, at best, an inexact science. The results can be fun to talk about, but, don't take them too seriously.

I would not discourage anyone from doing a DNA test, after all they are interesting, but do a little research first. I am glad we did ours, and our children are in the process of doing them as well.

George

Hello - I haven't been on in quite some time, but have significantly updated my family tree through ancesty.com and myheritage.

Recently, I had my DNA done and was surprised with the results:
Spain/Portugal: 40%
Native American: 18%
Great Britain: 10%
Italy/Greece: 9%
Middle East: 12%
African:4%

A cousin (related only through the Herrera line also took the DNA test, and to my surprise, it also revealed Italian/Greece and Great Britain.

I have traced a line to Jose Prudencio De Miramontes Bobadilla 1781, and according to houseofnames.com, the last name Bobadilla first appeared in Sardinia, an island off of Italy. Now, if only I can figure out the association of the Great Britain surname.

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